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Join this interview from the GOTO Book Club featuring Steve Pereira and Andrew Davis, co-authors of "Flow Engineering," as they discuss their innovative approach to improving workflow visibility in software development and knowledge work. Discover how they've adapted value stream mapping for modern digital environments where work is largely invisible compared to traditional manufacturing settings. Learn about their five-map framework designed to help teams establish clarity, improve collaboration, and enhance productivity despite busy schedules and constant firefighting. The authors explain the importance of visual collaboration in creating shared mental models and discuss how these practices remain relevant in an AI-driven future. The 44-minute talk covers the complexity of modern software development, techniques for visualizing invisible work, details of the Five Maps Framework, and perspectives on how Flow Engineering will evolve alongside artificial intelligence.