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Explore the intersection of faith, leadership, and moral responsibility in public service through this 31-minute conversation between two Aspen Global Leadership Network Civil Society Fellows. Join Elizabeth Neumann, former Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security and current Chief Strategy Officer at Moonshot, alongside Rev. Adam Taylor, president of Sojourners, as they examine what it takes to lead with moral courage during times of deep civic division. Discover how faith-informed values can be brought into public life constructively rather than divisively, drawing from Neumann's extensive experience in national security across three presidential administrations and her current work preventing violent extremism in online spaces, combined with Taylor's leadership of a Christian nonprofit dedicated to pursuing justice and dignity. Learn about the delicate balance between maintaining personal beliefs while fostering inclusive leadership that widens rather than narrows the circle of belonging. Gain insights from their candid discussion about faith's dual capacity to heal and divide, the responsibility leaders carry in choosing unifying language and actions, and the realities of persistent engagement when outcomes remain uncertain. Understand how years of confronting extremism, injustice, and slow progress have shaped their practical approaches to leadership challenges, offering honest perspectives on showing up consistently when the work is difficult and the path forward unclear.